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lewisnadasurf1 4:09 Thu Jan 28
Maths Question
Right.

Brentford started with 6 left footed players in their Starting XI last night (prob a record, but doubt these are counted).

From google, the odds of being left footed in general are 12.1% (just use that as a yard stick, no caveats)

So what are the odds on their being 6 out of 11 players being left footed?

Can anyone work it out?

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twoleftfeet 4:12 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
Is it really only 12.1%?

I’m left footed but right handed, what are those odds?

Hello Mrs. Jones 4:15 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
If it takes a man a week to walk a fortnight how many apples in a barrel of grapes

Heath Hammer 4:15 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
12% to power 6?

Mr Kenzo 4:15 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
Ask Goose, he is home schooling at the moment, i'm sure he can help you out

lewisnadasurf1 4:16 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
@twoleftfeet

on my travels i saw the odds of being right handed and left footed are about 2%

the odds on being left handed and left footed are about 60%

Faux Bare 4:29 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
I wouldn’t recommend asking goose anything. He doesn’t know what day it is.

Far Cough 4:32 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
A=π r2

Mad Dog 4:36 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
0.121 to the power 6
X
0.879 to the power 5

X
462 (different combinations)

You can get the number of combinations on a calculator using then choose function or by using pascals triangle

bill green 4:38 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
cant remember my statistics o level but the chances are prob higher than the general population as football will encourage left footed players

Mad Dog 4:39 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
0.121 being the decimal multiplier for 12.1%
The final answer is ....
0.076%

Mad Dog 4:40 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
Maths teacher btw.

This is well beyond even GCSE maths

geoffpikey 4:48 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
1314 to 1?

Lump ON! Taking account of the lesser possibility of it happening twice...

lewisnadasurf1 4:48 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
Thanks Mad Dog, appreicate it.

It is my own question as i wanted to know the odds. I salute you!

geoffpikey 4:50 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
We're any of them a left back we can buy for £39m? :-)

lewisnadasurf1 4:53 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
Rico Henry is def prem quality.

gph 4:55 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
"This is well beyond even GCSE maths"

Really?

Because I went to a shit school (and had to go to a better one to do A Levels), I only did CSE Maths. Only the top grade of a CSE was equal to an O Level (the third grade of that).

But I'm pretty sure we did the binomial theorem* in the CSE.

*As applied perfectly by Mad Dog

atb trev 4:56 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
Mad dogs answer is the correct answer for finding 6 left footed people in a random sample of 11 people in the population.

That is not the same as the chances of 6 left footed players in a game of football. Most teams start with at least 2.

If you really wanted to find out the real world chances of finding 6 left footed football players in the starting 11 of a randomly selected game of football you'd need to use a statistics based approach rather than a probabilities based approach. i.e find the number of left footed players in a starting line up in your sample of games. Then divide the occurrences of 6 in the starting lineup by the number of games in your sample.

lewisnadasurf1 5:00 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
Thanks - yes the question was asked on a forum about whether this was a record - the obvious caveat being you're right - football teams are more likely to have left footed players - lowering the 1 in 1400. meaning the odds already are not that high and its likely that some team has started with more lefties in their team than the 6 brentford started last night.

Mad Dog 5:15 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
OK then if we take into account 2 are always left footed we multiply by 126.

However if we then take into account 2 are usually right footed then we multiply by 35 (making it in effect 4 players from 7) including 2 constants on either wing

Making it 0.51%

.121^4 * .879^3 * 35

gph 5:29 Thu Jan 28
Re: Maths Question
I haven't read this

https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.105580!/file/left-foot-papermay2009.pdf

but the headline seems to be that 22% of footballers across the top 5 European Leagues are left-footed.

As it has three categories, left-, right- and, er, ambi-footed, if the members of the third category were forced to choose, that would push up the number left-footed players up even further.

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